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I noticed this week I had stained tip of both thumbnails. Took polish off tonight and saw this. There are some slight tinges on other nails but worse in this.
I feel panicked for the first time in a few weeks. I've read about how yellow nails are symptoms of some cancers.
I did have a curry last Friday but have and always do wear nail polish so not sure it would stain through? I'm so scared right nw.
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Yes it looks like staining of some sort to me.
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I'm genuinely panicked. Tried to talk to my partner and he went in a mood at me so just crying on my own. It's horrible when I'm trying to beat this anxiety then a new symptom appears.
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Unless you give your nails a break, nail polish will definitely tinge your nails yellow. I'm in the process of giving my toenails a break from polish because it happened to them. Without polish you can see how the new growth is a healthy color and there's a line of demarcation where the yellow stain is.
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Originally Posted by
helenhoo
I'm genuinely panicked. Tried to talk to my partner and he went in a mood at me so just crying on my own. It's horrible when I'm trying to beat this anxiety then a new symptom appears.
Maybe not talk to your partner about every little thing (that most take in their stride) ... have you told him you have HA and what you are doing to try and overcome it?
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I've always always worn polish and this is first time I've seen this yellow stain. Is it looking fungal like? It's on the other thumb and a little on a few others.
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It’s staining. Even if it was fungus, which it’s not, no big deal. There is treatment for that.
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AntsyVee
It’s staining. Even if it was fungus, which it’s not, no big deal. There is treatment for that.
Turmeric being what turns curry yellow may be it?
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Wise Monkey, I have yes. We've been together since it started pretty much. So he's seen and heard it all which I know gets annoying and frustrating but I can't help the panic I feel.
Antsy, I think so too but I may go pharmacy just in case. Working in a busy shop and looking after my child I don't want to risk it
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Beating OCD when you are forgetful
So my OCD means checking and checking plugs but twice this week I'd left the straightners on. I'd have probably checked before I left but this triggers my OCD into checking repeatedly
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You might be less distracted if you're less anxious, though.
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Saw a trainee pharmacist and she said it probably isn't fungal because nails aren't brittle and not curry stain because it's been a week so now I'm sat reading liver failure and autoimmune hepatitis articles. Feel so much worse now.
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So you shoot yourself in the foot and Google over innocent stains on your thumb. Of course you'd feel worse :lac:
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Feel worse that she didn't seem to know what it was and to see my doctor. My nail feels tight tight so it possibly is fungal but she said it wasn't. It could be nail polish stain but now I work odd shift work I can't take time for doctor appointment. What would you think it was?
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I’ve had it from nail polish.
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Re: Beating OCD when you are forgetful
Everybody checks stuff. Sorting anxiety is about normalising. That doesn't mean you never check something or ask for reassurance, it means it's within an acceptable range. Aiming for purity is a false target and often unachievable.
Checking once is fine. When you feel you need to check beyond, work on eliminating this. Maybe eventually you won't check at all but that will naturally come as you no longer feel the urges to complete a compulsion.
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Wouldn't that affect all nails and just a few?
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Are you a smoker ?
It looks like staining to me also, just wait and see if it grows out.
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I'm sat reading liver failure and autoimmune hepatitis articles.
I thought you were actually trying to work on your HA ? Great idea to jump to reading ridiculously unlikely causes, RIDICULOUSLY unlikely. I've seen this staining from nail polish, had it myself actually from dark reds if you don't use a base coat underneath. It happens on the drier older ends of the nail more often, as the colour can absorb in there easier, and if the nail polish is left on for a really long time it can also reduced oxygenation to the nail and cause dicolouration. If instead of flippin liver faliure you had looked up stained nails from polish you would have found plenty of pictures like this -
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...xJaMvXi81HIA&s
There we go, problem sorted !!!
....oh and no it would not necessarily affect ALL nails as some are more brittle and dry due to finger use than others. My my own experience - wait for it to grow out, don't use nail polish in the meantime and add some almond oil or similar to your nails.
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Hi Helen if you want someone to chat to/vent when u have a HA flare up, let me know and we could swap numbers. Im also in the UK, female and always annoying my partner with crazy health scares... I know what its like x
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If it is fungus will it affect wiping myself on loo? Can it spread like that? Cooking? At work?
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Did you read a single thing I wrote ?
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Carys
Did you read a single thing I wrote ?
I did! I thought it was very informative and helpful. You learn something new every day on NMP [emoji3]
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Carys
Did you read a single thing I wrote ?
The OP isn't interested in a simple and logical explanation though.
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Originally Posted by
pulisa
The OP isn't interested in a simple and logical explanation though.
This is a pattern with Helen and a few others here, like Darkside, we can reassure and try to comfort them but it's like they do even read it. As pages and pages of responses continue and the OP still doesnt acknowledge the help offered, irritation sets in.
So if the OP is known to ignore help offered, what's our best course of action?
Personally, I am here every day looking for an update from J2 about Gavin. 🙏
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Sorry Carys, I had comemtned before seeing replies.
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Color changes reflective of systemic problems don't start midway down the nail. They start at the base and extend as they grow.
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Well, I wrote mine an hour before your reply - why not actually READ (as Nancy points out, people don't even read things) and stop and think about what people have written before adding your next illogical statement.
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I did! I thought it was very informative and helpful. You learn something new every day on NMP
:roflmao:
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lofwyr
Color changes reflective of systemic problems don't start midway down the nail. They start at the base and extend as they grow.
Very true, I've been a licensed cosmetologist for 40 years, we have loads of training in diseases and disorders of the skin, hair and nails. Nails and hair become porous the older they get. This is normal from daily wear and tear, because of the porosity both can absorb stains from various things, most common for both hair and nails is yellow. But why would I bother to explain that to Helen when she doesn't appreciate or accept the help?
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does nail varnish stain nails
Most commonly, yellow nails are caused by our beloved nail polish. The darker polishes especially take a toll on your nails, leaving them stained with leftover dyes. The easiest way to prevent this from happening is by always using a clear base coat.
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This irrational anxiety has it's roots in the inability to be confident enough (in oneself) to discern the difference between a simple benign symptom v a serious one. In this situation common sense and the ability to 'hold still' flies out the window and panic ensues. HA then sees danger/death around every corner and views the world as an unsafe place.
HA is usually a learned/conditioned way of responding so it's familiar. More often than not it also has it's roots in an individuals upbringing ie a troubled parent (had similar issues) or a significant traumatic event in a young life.
Recognising where the anxiety (and the pattern of responding) comes from the is the first step, then reprogramming your self beliefs (and your way of responding) is the next and it's the hardest part.
Many of us with HA issues can't do it alone, many need professional help usually from a psychologist. Many of us know what to do but don't know how to do it. We need to learn how to have the inner confidence to respond to health adversity in a more rational, calm appropriate way and to feel safe while we are doing it.
Our human bodies don't run to clockwork and we can't always control what happens to them. They are ever changing in a myriad of ways and most of these changes are quite harmless, they're just blips along the way.
I hope in a small way that this will help :)
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It sounds as though your psychologist is helping you to manage your HA, WM but you have always worked very hard yourself and I think that this is essential if you want to have a better quality of life.
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Thank you Wise, my parents were in a toxic violent relationship and I heard a lot of the 'fights' I believe this is the cause. Plus when my HA started, months prior a close family member was diagnosed with cancer. Since got the all clear but I at the time I was positive for this family member, it was only months after my HA started when I received my first smear test letter.
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I have often said I wish I could ungoogle. My friend has had dodgy periods for months and isn't slightly fazed. If that was me I'd be in doctors the next day. I worry I'll l never get to the logical side again. Without sounding defeatist I don't see how I can stop this irrationality and it worries me for my child.
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Did you put a sign by the computer like I told you to?
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Originally Posted by
helenhoo
I have often said I wish I could ungoogle. My friend has had dodgy periods for months and isn't slightly fazed. If that was me I'd be in doctors the next day. I worry I'll l never get to the logical side again. Without sounding defeatist I don't see how I can stop this irrationality and it worries me for my child.
The thing is Helen, if you continue down this path, you are teaching your child to be afraid of every little health sensation. Anxiety is seen to be genetic.
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Originally Posted by
helenhoo
I have often said I wish I could ungoogle. My friend has had dodgy periods for months and isn't slightly fazed. If that was me I'd be in doctors the next day. I worry I'll l never get to the logical side again. Without sounding defeatist I don't see how I can stop this irrationality and it worries me for my child.
What happened with your CBT? I still don't understand how therapy works in the UK. Is there an option to just find a therapist and go to them? I was just as bad as you and therapy did wonders for me. It's not cheap here, but it was essential to my health and the wellbeing of my family so we put it on a credit card. Sucks, but that was certainly better than be being debilitated with anxiety. It wasn't even CBT, just talk therapy consistently over many months with check ins. Then I realized I really need to go consistently so now I still go once a month even when I feel fine.
And what about medication? Your anxiety is severe but it's an illness with a cure. You never seem to follow through with treatment and that's why you aren't getting back to your logical side.
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utrocket09
The thing is Helen, if you continue down this path, you are teaching your child to be afraid of every little health sensation. Anxiety is seen to be genetic.
And yes, I got my HA from my mother. She never got over hers. She's lived with it since she was a teenager and is now nearly 67. It's such a shame and it's always pretty bad, no real breaks. Multiple times a day she mentions something she's worrying about - a spot on her arm, a feeling in her body. It's constant and it's how I grew up. My therapist told me that my mother taught me that the world is not a safe place and that even the smallest sensation could be catastrophic. This is one of the biggest reasons I've spent so much time/money getting well. And I spend a lot of time explaining my anxiety to my daughter and how it works/why there's no real danger, etc... But it's so so important to be aware of how it affects our children because they learn from us.
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pulisa
It sounds as though your psychologist is helping you to manage your HA, WM but you have always worked very hard yourself and I think that this is essential if you want to have a better quality of life.
Thanks pulisa, but I can't see her until next year, I'm on a waiting list!! These are just my understandings of HA and it's origins...as you might guess, I know what to do but am working on the how ie strategies and how to use them. I've also got bits of OCD as well!
Helenhoo My mother had a personality disorder (NPD) and had an obsession with cancer. She used to tell me about her fears and that she had stomach cancer etc and she was going to die etc. I was about 3 years old when she started this. I later discovered that it was just a ruse she used to get attention, my father wasn't interested (he'd heard it all before) so she used me (I was the eldest)!! So I grew up anxious and frightened of everything and thinking that my mother would die! She was always in my face with something negative.
When I was eleven I took a book and went and hid in the bushes to get some space for myself. When I arrived back my mother was so angry, she threatened to kill herself if I ever did this again! I think this was truly the real beginning of my HA, I felt that I had to protect myself so that she would be safe. It was a role reversal where I had to be the mother and she was the child. My father was a lovely gentle man but he was no match for our mother and he didn't protect us in the way he should have. So he was negligent and she was down right emotionally and psychologically abusive.
I'm not relating this for sympathy but just to show how crazy dysfunctional parent/s can affect/ruin their off springs lives. Luckily for me (through my teaching) I'd learned not to show anxiety around my children so they don't suffer from HA, but they do have some OCD (which they both know about)!
ps. My mother died last year at 91 (of old age) !! She drove all those rest home nurses crazy with her perceived ailments such was her need for attention :lac:
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Originally Posted by
NancyW
Very true, I've been a licensed cosmetologist for 40 years, we have loads of training in diseases and disorders of the skin, hair and nails. Nails and hair become porous the older they get. This is normal from daily wear and tear, because of the porosity both can absorb stains from various things, most common for both hair and nails is yellow. But why would I bother to explain that to Helen when she doesn't appreciate or accept the help?
If I am honest, I didn't see who the original post is from or that there were already three pages of responses or I likely wouldn't have bothered.
Not trying to be cruel at all, just noting a lack of response to anything I posted in the past.