Worried I have diabetes

[devo343]

It doesn't run in my family I don't have unexplained weeight loss I don't have an increased appetite or thirst after eating I don't have an increased urge to go to the bathroom but I don't eat that well I try to avoid fatty snacks in btween meals but I still eat alot of fatty high carb meals and I'm worried that is gonna lead to diabetes any help?

[Fishmanpa]

any help?

It doesn't run in my family I don't have unexplained weeight loss I don't have an increased appetite or thirst after eating I don't have an increased urge to go to the bathroom...I try to avoid fatty snacks in btween meals


Positive thoughts

[ankietyjoe]

If you're worried about developing diabetes because you eat a lot of carby and fatty foods, then stop eating those foods.

The main thing to cut down on is carbs, fat in itself isn't an issue. You need to cut carbs down a lot, and refined carbs out completely.

[Weasley123]

Moderation in everything. You do not need to cut all carbs or even all refined carbs. Carbs are part of a healthy diet. You just need to eat a wide variety of foods and make sure when you eat something sugary fatty or refined it’s something you love. This is an old article but it’s my favorite article ever about diet
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bonappetit.com/recipes/healthy/article/the-food-writer-s-diet/amp
And this
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2017/11/04/opinion/sunday/relax-you-dont-need-to-eat-clean.amp.html

[ankietyjoe]

The OP talked about eating a lot of fatty, high carb meals. These are absolutely the worst kind of foods to eat, and carbs aren't part of a healthy diet, specifically refined carbs. I also didn't say cut them all out, except refined carbs. No, you don't HAVE to, but if the OP is worried about it, there's no downside to cutting them out, they are nutritionally negative.

What you're referring to is the deeply flawed standard American diet, which has caused the greatest epidemic of health problems in human history.

[Weasley123]

The OP talked about eating a lot of fatty, high carb meals. These are absolutely the worst kind of foods to eat, and carbs aren't part of a healthy diet, specifically refined carbs. I also didn't say cut them all out, except refined carbs. No, you don't HAVE to, but if the OP is worried about it, there's no downside to cutting them out, they are nutritionally negative.

What you're referring to is the deeply flawed standard American diet, which has caused the greatest epidemic of health problems in human history.

You are 100 percent incorrect about what I’m referring too and did not read the articles I attached which do not advocate the diet you are describing at all. Both advocate balanced diets with occasional indulgences one is written by a food editor the other by the health editor of the New York Times. There is no need for either extreme. If you eat a balanced diet most of the time one donut will not kill you. If it is an excellent donut it will even be good for the soul. In no way did I advocate the op continue eating junk. I rather suggested a balanced diet with occasional indulgences as advocates in the articles you failed to read. And there’s a lot to be lost by making certain foods forbidden it leads to binges and unhealthy eating.

This article is about hundred but is very relevant
https://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/04/21/the-lure-of-forbidden-food/

[ankietyjoe]

It's what you/they perceive to be a balanced diet that is wrong. The entire treatment system for diabetes and chronic disease is being re-written in the UK (NHS) because carbohydrates are too prevalent in the diet. Both alzheimer's and many forms of heart disease are now being recognised as insulin related conditions.

I for one won't be taking dietary advice from editors in a newspaper, especially when the articles are simply opinion.

I'm not talking about a 'diet', which implies a short term solution to a problem, I'm talking about a long term lifestyle change. A balanced diet based around the SAD (standard American diet) with occasional indulgences clearly doesn't work for the majority of people. You only have to look at the state of the population there (and here in the UK) to understand that.

Even the borough I live in there is now an established dietary regime to treat diabetes, and it has a 70% reversal rate within 6 months. It works by keeping total carb intake to less than 50g per day, or less if possible. I'll repeat that, 70% reversal within 6 months. Standard medication rates are 0% reversal, and a 100% slow decline into serious ill health.

I'm not a nut job conspiracy theorist, but if you are worried about diabetes, this is the way to go. Even if you're not, the SAD is NOT the way to go.

[Weasley123]

And I would further say the primary issue with the standard American diet is the all or nothing approach that has people binging then restricting rather then enjoying a moderate sensible balanced diet

[ankietyjoe]

No it's not. Bingeing and restricting doesn't work because it just doesn't work. The body rebounds because your BMR crashes when you restrict too much.

The carbohydrate issue is one of hormones, specifically insulin. This is heavily documented and recognised now, and refined carbohydrates are by far the worst offenders. If you want to read up on it, search for things like insulin resistance or even Dr Jason Fungs research and treatment of diabetes with fasting and low carb lifestyles.

I will add it's not just what we eat, but how often too. Historically we were told to eat for 12-14 hours a day, mainly based on grains. This is just not healthy, and everything in moderation does not work.

It's the 'balanced diet' bit that is the issue, because most people believe that should include bread, pasta, cake, sugar and pies. Ideally...it shouldn't.

[Weasley123]

No it's not. Bingeing and restricting doesn't work because it just doesn't work. The body rebounds because your BMR crashes when you restrict too much.

The carbohydrate issue is one of hormones, specifically insulin. This is heavily documented and recognised now, and refined carbohydrates are by far the worst offenders. If you want to read up on it, search for things like insulin resistance or even Dr Jason Fungs research and treatment of diabetes with fasting and low carb lifestyles.

I will add it's not just what we eat, but how often too. Historically we were told to eat for 12-14 hours a day, mainly based on grains. This is just not healthy, and everything in moderation does not work.

It's the 'balanced diet' bit that is the issue, because most people believe that should include bread, pasta, cake, sugar and pies. Ideally...it shouldn't.

Please tell me where I advocated bingeing and restricting. Actually I advice the exact opposite. I recommend a healthy diet of mostly vegetables and healthy fats and the occasional treat. I personally eat very healthy during the week and indulge on weekends and I also walk a great deal and it’s kept me thinner then most. It keeps me from feeling deprived and I eat a great deal of veggies. I consider this as everything in moderation abs it’s worked. Despite your incorrect interpretation of my argument again you didn’t read the articles I am not advising a high carb diet or binging. I am advising a balanced diet of primarily vegetables and fruits some meat and dairy some healthy carbs and I’m saying that there is no reason to make any food forbidden. I’m not sure why you think I’m advising a fast food free for all By advocating a balanced diet.

[Weasley123]

Please tell me where I advocated bingeing and restricting. Actually I advice the exact opposite. I recommend a healthy diet of mostly vegetables and healthy fats and the occasional treat. I personally eat very healthy during the week and indulge on weekends and I also walk a great deal and it’s kept me thinner then most. It keeps me from feeling deprived and I eat a great deal of veggies. I consider this as everything in moderation abs it’s worked. Despite your incorrect interpretation of my argument again you didn’t read the articles I am not advising a high carb diet or binging. I am advising a balanced diet of primarily vegetables and fruits some meat and dairy some healthy carbs and I’m saying that there is no reason to make any food forbidden. I’m not sure why you think I’m advising a fast food free for all By advocating a balanced diet.

Also the author of the second article is The NY Times health editor a dr medical researcher who actually advocates a diet low in carbs and processed foods.

[Weasley123]

Also the author of the second article is The NY Times health editor a dr medical researcher who actually advocates a diet low in carbs and processed foods.
If you read this article by the same man I think you will see he and I are advocating a healthy diet. He’s probably healthier then I but I can aspire to it. He advocates limiting processed food among other things

[ankietyjoe]

Please tell me where I advocated bingeing and restricting. Actually I advice the exact opposite. I recommend a healthy diet of mostly vegetables and healthy fats and the occasional treat. I personally eat very healthy during the week and indulge on weekends and I also walk a great deal and it’s kept me thinner then most. It keeps me from feeling deprived and I eat a great deal of veggies. I consider this as everything in moderation abs it’s worked. Despite your incorrect interpretation of my argument again you didn’t read the articles I am not advising a high carb diet or binging. I am advising a balanced diet of primarily vegetables and fruits some meat and dairy some healthy carbs and I’m saying that there is no reason to make any food forbidden. I’m not sure why you think I’m advising a fast food free for all By advocating a balanced diet.

This is why I used the word 'perception'. Your perception of everything in moderation is the best case scenario, whereas most people's idea of everything in moderation is not the same. I wasn't trying to imply that you were advocating an unhealthy diet, it's just that we are arguing/debating on a thread specifically about a diabetes concern, and diabetes is directly caused by a) excess carbohydrate and b) grazing diets where people eat every hour or two. Your initial repost was that carbs are fine, you don't need to worry about them and they're part of a healthy diet, and this is what I was disagreeing with...in the context of this post. Again this is not crackpot dietary fad-mongering. There will be/should be big changes coming to dietary recommendations in the future because the current epidemic of chronic and life threatening disease is largely preventable by changing in eating habits.

In terms of being 'forbidden'...if you DO have diabetes (which I don't think the OP has btw)...then refined carbs absolutely 100% should be forbidden. Diabetes is a hormonally driven disease, specifically triggered by foods that spike insulin the hardest, and those foods are refined carbs. Again, this is widely documented, scientifically proven fact. Most 'experts' in medicine haven't caught up with this fact yet, because it's not what they were taught in medical school. Instead, they pump you full of insulin until it kills you. Bizarre!